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		<title>Comment on Health Care by jessie</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/health-care/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of denying people care because of someone else&#039;s pre-conceived judgements about how people live their lives (which may or may not consider social and health inequities that contribute to poor health, or based on evidence for that matter), how about considering a re-orientation of health care away from the focus on acute care, to preventive/community-based care, so that instead of making them sick, people&#039;s &quot;lifestyles&quot; incorporate healthy habits that drastically reduce systemic costs over the long term?

To answer your other question, I think the UK may have been considering several taxes for people with &quot;unhealthy lifestyles&quot;.

The costs of health care will never go down so long as the acute care model of health care is in place - equipment, pharmaceuticals, physician fees, expensive procedures - which only addresses problems once they present themselves will always be far more expensive than spending money to prevent them in the first place. And charging people extra for their &quot;lifestyle&quot; illnesses is not the answer.  It only serves to further marginalize, and exacerbate negative determinants of health for, those getting sick in the first place.

Take a look at the Ottawa, Jakarta and Bangkok Charters to get a feel for what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of denying people care because of someone else&#8217;s pre-conceived judgements about how people live their lives (which may or may not consider social and health inequities that contribute to poor health, or based on evidence for that matter), how about considering a re-orientation of health care away from the focus on acute care, to preventive/community-based care, so that instead of making them sick, people&#8217;s &#8220;lifestyles&#8221; incorporate healthy habits that drastically reduce systemic costs over the long term?</p>
<p>To answer your other question, I think the UK may have been considering several taxes for people with &#8220;unhealthy lifestyles&#8221;.</p>
<p>The costs of health care will never go down so long as the acute care model of health care is in place &#8211; equipment, pharmaceuticals, physician fees, expensive procedures &#8211; which only addresses problems once they present themselves will always be far more expensive than spending money to prevent them in the first place. And charging people extra for their &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; illnesses is not the answer.  It only serves to further marginalize, and exacerbate negative determinants of health for, those getting sick in the first place.</p>
<p>Take a look at the Ottawa, Jakarta and Bangkok Charters to get a feel for what I mean.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care by dental &#187; &#60;b&#62;Health&#60;/b&#62; Care</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/health-care/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>dental &#187; &#60;b&#62;Health&#60;/b&#62; Care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Health Care by blogblink</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/health-care/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>blogblink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s enough to make you weep&#8230; by waltzingaustralia</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/its-enough-to-make-you-weep/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>waltzingaustralia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first of all, while I haven&#039;t seen the move either (by choice), I have seen the Al Gore errors quoted so often -- and even by those who agree with him -- that I don&#039;t think anyone can question the accuracy of the quotes. 

And I agree that is unacceptable to reward Gore&#039;s unacceptable behavior, which actually extends for further than even hinted at by your comment, Ian.

But if you look at the whole Nobel issue, Alfred Nobel was a socialist, despite his great wealth. He was the inventor of dynamite, blasting caps, and gel explosives, but endowed a peace prize. So Gore, who borders on being a socialist and lives a life at least as oddly incongruent as Nobel, seems a suitable winner of the prize.  Unfortunately, most people see it differently -- they think it makes Gore look like a good guy. 

Of course, many scientists (including one I met at Newfoundland&#039;s fabulous Johnson Geo Center) willingly acknowledge that there is really no way to know if the warming trend is being effected in any way by our activities, as we are in fact still in the warming period after the last mini-Ice Age. So instead of whining, why aren&#039;t we talking about ways to cope with the fact that the earth changes, whether we like it or not.

Oh -- and I absolutely agree that it&#039;s the guy with the press agent who gets noticed, not the folks working at ground level in really bad places to stop the problems.

So thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first of all, while I haven&#8217;t seen the move either (by choice), I have seen the Al Gore errors quoted so often &#8212; and even by those who agree with him &#8212; that I don&#8217;t think anyone can question the accuracy of the quotes. </p>
<p>And I agree that is unacceptable to reward Gore&#8217;s unacceptable behavior, which actually extends for further than even hinted at by your comment, Ian.</p>
<p>But if you look at the whole Nobel issue, Alfred Nobel was a socialist, despite his great wealth. He was the inventor of dynamite, blasting caps, and gel explosives, but endowed a peace prize. So Gore, who borders on being a socialist and lives a life at least as oddly incongruent as Nobel, seems a suitable winner of the prize.  Unfortunately, most people see it differently &#8212; they think it makes Gore look like a good guy. </p>
<p>Of course, many scientists (including one I met at Newfoundland&#8217;s fabulous Johnson Geo Center) willingly acknowledge that there is really no way to know if the warming trend is being effected in any way by our activities, as we are in fact still in the warming period after the last mini-Ice Age. So instead of whining, why aren&#8217;t we talking about ways to cope with the fact that the earth changes, whether we like it or not.</p>
<p>Oh &#8212; and I absolutely agree that it&#8217;s the guy with the press agent who gets noticed, not the folks working at ground level in really bad places to stop the problems.</p>
<p>So thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s enough to make you weep&#8230; by Ian</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/its-enough-to-make-you-weep/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,
Obviously you missed the quote.  I was only quoting what was written elsewhere.  Now I will be honest I didn&#039;t see An Inconvenient Truth nor do I intend to.  The point of including that quote was to show that not everyone buys the details of Gore&#039;s hook, line and sinker.  

It is interesting though that you essentially ignored the reason behind my complaint about Gore winning and focused on something someone else wrote (clearly marked as such, I might add).  If you think it&#039;s okay that Gore flies around in a private jet, lives in a huge house and buys indulgences instead of making real sacrifices that is your business but to me it is unacceptable to reward such behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,<br />
Obviously you missed the quote.  I was only quoting what was written elsewhere.  Now I will be honest I didn&#8217;t see An Inconvenient Truth nor do I intend to.  The point of including that quote was to show that not everyone buys the details of Gore&#8217;s hook, line and sinker.  </p>
<p>It is interesting though that you essentially ignored the reason behind my complaint about Gore winning and focused on something someone else wrote (clearly marked as such, I might add).  If you think it&#8217;s okay that Gore flies around in a private jet, lives in a huge house and buys indulgences instead of making real sacrifices that is your business but to me it is unacceptable to reward such behaviour.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s enough to make you weep&#8230; by Maya</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/its-enough-to-make-you-weep/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about the blogosphere is that we get to pick and choose what we read.  It&#039;s good because of the broad spectrum of thoughts and ideas.  If one is offended by the views expressed on a particular blog and views it as pollution, then one simply should refrain from reading it or engage the author in respectful debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about the blogosphere is that we get to pick and choose what we read.  It&#8217;s good because of the broad spectrum of thoughts and ideas.  If one is offended by the views expressed on a particular blog and views it as pollution, then one simply should refrain from reading it or engage the author in respectful debate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s enough to make you weep&#8230; by drew phillips</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/its-enough-to-make-you-weep/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>drew phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you often make up complete fabriations such as you did with what you said Gore said in his movie or do you sometimes research your material and make objective and reasoned statement? I saw An Inconvenient Truth and at no time did Gore state that  Greenland would lose its ice sheet &quot;in the near future&quot; or that the graphs were &quot;an exact fit&quot; and for that matter, the judge never said that Gore was being &quot;an alarmist&quot;. These are rehashed words used by other bloggers, but are not accurate - try doing some honest homework for a change before you pollute the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you often make up complete fabriations such as you did with what you said Gore said in his movie or do you sometimes research your material and make objective and reasoned statement? I saw An Inconvenient Truth and at no time did Gore state that  Greenland would lose its ice sheet &#8220;in the near future&#8221; or that the graphs were &#8220;an exact fit&#8221; and for that matter, the judge never said that Gore was being &#8220;an alarmist&#8221;. These are rehashed words used by other bloggers, but are not accurate &#8211; try doing some honest homework for a change before you pollute the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Libraries in private hands&#8230; by Woeful</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/libraries-in-private-hands/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Woeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overall quality of materials and service will suffer under privitization (unless the patron can pay for it the extra effort). It&#039;s now a for profit business, and the bottom line is all that ultimately matters to any corporation. That said, better private than none at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overall quality of materials and service will suffer under privitization (unless the patron can pay for it the extra effort). It&#8217;s now a for profit business, and the bottom line is all that ultimately matters to any corporation. That said, better private than none at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Man I am definitely buying the shirt now! by jessie</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/09/26/man-i-am-definitely-buying-the-shirt-now/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s also the &quot;old&quot; newsroom adage, &quot;if it bleeds, it leads&quot;... :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s also the &#8220;old&#8221; newsroom adage, &#8220;if it bleeds, it leads&#8221;&#8230; :p</p>
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		<title>Comment on Man I am definitely buying the shirt now! by Maya</title>
		<link>http://iangibson.wordpress.com/2007/09/26/man-i-am-definitely-buying-the-shirt-now/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe (correct me if this is false) that it&#039;s illegal to hunt baby seals.  Only adult seals can be hunted.  I don&#039;t agree with the hunt either; but whenever the seal hunt is discussed there is always a picture of a baby seal, tugging on heartstrings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe (correct me if this is false) that it&#8217;s illegal to hunt baby seals.  Only adult seals can be hunted.  I don&#8217;t agree with the hunt either; but whenever the seal hunt is discussed there is always a picture of a baby seal, tugging on heartstrings.</p>
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